Tuesday, November 21, 2006

Robin Hood 2006 : Should there be a Friar Tuck? Vote now.

As the BBC went into production on Robin Hood they announced their decision to drop the Friar Tuck character.
Friar Tuck was the most educated of the outlaws, certainly with the ability to read and a basic knowledge of the law. These skills were a great asset to the outlaws, and his religion also helped provide some spiritual counselling for the men. He quite probably had some medical training from his time in the Abbey. But he was also an excellent swordsman, almost the match of Robin himself. And yes it's true he had an insatiable appetite for good food and wine (and some say an eye for the ladies), together with a fiery temper. However, in spite of the BBC's claims, Friar Tuck was never an object of fun. He was both loved and respected, as all prior versions of the story show.
So, do you think series 2 should introduce a Friar? Or do you think, in this day and age, it's not appropriate? Or maybe you think it's just not necessary anyway? Simple vote. Yes or No.
Polls Now Closed. Result:
92% of you wanted to see a new Friar Tuck introduced to the series, and restored to his rightful place in the legend. BBC, are you listening?

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16 Comments:

Blogger robin hood said...

Friar Tuck banned by the BBC.

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BBC Robin Hood 2006 Cast:

Robin Hood - Jonas Armstrong
Marian - Lucy Griffiths
Guy of Gisborne - Richard Armitage
Sheriff of Nottingham - Keith Allen
Little John - Gordon Kennedy
Much - Sam Troughton
Alan A'Dale - Joe Armstrong
Will Scarlett - Harry Lloyd
Anjali Jay - Djaq

(Basic cast only).

2:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm not too sure bout whether they should have a friar tuck...I'm sort of thinking no, cause the story doesn't really need a Friar Tuck at the moe and the band of outlaws seem complete and fine without him...but i dunno...and if he was meant to be there from the start, then where are the script writers going to say he's been...?

Anyway if they do introduce Friar Tuck it'll probably be because they can't think of anything else to write...joking! Just my opinion.. Lulu xx

5:21 PM  
Blogger robin hood said...

The script writers could introduce him as a totally new addition. He doesn't necessarily have to have been there at the very beginning. Like with Djaq, a late addition to the gang.

5:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think he was such a great part of the story, almost providing that divine protection. We must remember that these times were quite turbulent for religion - and Robin fought for the King, who fought for God. With the church on Robin's side, it gives the sherrif an even worse character, being as ungodly as he is. I'm not saying we need to make the show 'religious', but Friar Tuck was an amazing key character!!

7:23 PM  
Blogger robin hood said...

Thanks for the input.

One of the few things I liked about "Prince of Thieves" was a great Friar Tuck, troubled over having to associate with a Saracen outlaw. When they became friends I thought it an important message. I'd like to see the same between a new catholic Friar and Djaq.

10:23 PM  
Anonymous Tasha said...

I'd like to see a Friar Tuck.Together with Little John[WHEN are they going to give Gordon Kennedy something to do?A waste of a good actor]he would give some maturity to the gang.
Also,it would stop all those people who are moaning about his absence& trying to make out it's a PC issue.

11:22 AM  
Blogger robin hood said...

Hi Tasha,
As you know I fully agree with you about Little John. He's being wasted.
With regards Friar Tuck I believe I'm right in saying the BBC themselves stated a Tuck was inappropriate 'cos people make fun of his size. As I've already stated elsewhere, that isn't true. But it does seem they raised the pc issue first. (The article is somewhere on the 'net). The BBC controller also made jokes about the 80's hairstyles in Robin of Sherwood. Fair enough, trends change. But at least that series had a vision for how to develop all the characters and story before filming commenced. This current one has suffered a bit (in my opinion) for want of more advance planning regarding how to interpret the legend.

11:55 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Definately NO! I do not want to see Friar Tuck.It would completely spoil this modern take of Robin Hood.BBC,don't bring him back!Please.

4:31 PM  
Blogger Clement of the Glen said...

Just read a bit of good news today, all you merry hooders! Guy of Gisborne is going to marry Rev. Geraldine Grainger in the Vicar of Dibley at Xmas!! Phew! I still stand a chance with Maid Marian.

The first Friars didn't reach England till 1224 when a group of nine Franciscans reached the south coast. So perhaps the BBC is going for historical accuracy after all!

I shall be doing an in depth article on Friar Tuck on my Blog soon. In the meantime, I'm off to Knighton Hall to serenade Maid Marian now that Gisborne is spoken for!!

5:51 PM  
Blogger Emily said...

I think that Friar Tuck could be a very interesting addition to the show. As the intensity of the show is starting to heat up, I think that introducing him later on in the series would be a very nice addition - the writers do have a lot to work with here. I don't know too much about the history behind all of this, but if they're letting Marian look like she's from 2006, admitting a Friar, who wasn't quite in England at the time, wouldn't be a big deal. However, that said I would like more historical accuracy in some of the details (such as Marian's clothing) if they are going to be historically accurate about Friar Tuck.

7:54 PM  
Blogger robin hood said...

Hi Clement,

I wouldn't worry too much about the fine detail of history, more the entertainment. Was it John Ford who said, regarding his Western classics, "I don't tell the truth, I tell the legend".

Whilst some internet sources do say "the first friars landed at Dover on 5 August 1221", legend tells us that Friar Tuck was a novice in Newstead Abbey, Nottinghamshire, which was founded in 1163. (There's a bit about that place on my "Robin Hood Was Here" link).

I'd just love to see the Friar restored to the story, carrying Robin across the river. And I'm certainly looking forward to your article.

One of the saddest aspects of the filmed versions of Robin Hood is that Alexander Gauge (the Friar of the 1950s TV series, known the world over), committed suicide very soon after the series ended.

10:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Clement you still have competition against robin hood remember, dont get too excited...!

Robin, why did Alexander Gauge commit suicide...? Lulu xxxx

3:55 PM  
Blogger Clement of the Glen said...

This is another example of the legend tying us all up in knots! If young Mr Tuck was at Newstead Abbey, he would have been a Monk of the order of St. Augustine, not a Friar. Still, who cares, the jolly fat friar is now an integral part of the Robin Hood story and will always remain so.

3:55 PM  
Blogger robin hood said...

Thanks Clement. I confess I wouldn't know the difference between a Friar and a Monk. All I know is that he should be put back into the series. But will characters like Will Scarlet and Little John to develop more, there's plenty of material for another good series.

6:15 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's irrelevant that they didn't actually have friars in the time of Richard I as the stories probably didn't occur then in the first place. Still he's one of the main merry men and has more right to a place than a Saracin.

12:52 AM  
Blogger robin hood said...

I agree with you "anon" about the right of Friar Tuck to be there. And of course we now know that he's likely to be in the future.

But I'd hate to lose the Saracin outlaw which has become so popular since the 1980's.

7:25 PM  

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